• Last post of the year - looking back in the year that was archaeology in Southeast Asia in 2022. Check out the full post here: https://www.southeastasianarchaeology.com/2022/12/16/southeast-asian-archaeology-2022-year-in-review/

And see you in the new year! Best wishes to all for the holiday season!

#southeastasianarchaeology #southeastasianarchaeology2022 #recap
  • Last month I was at the Si Thep Historical Park in Phetchabun province - a less-known archaeological site, but an impressive one considering the ancient town has remnants dating from prehistoric times until the 13th century CE. Khao Klang Nok is a massive Buddhist stupa dating to the 8th or 9th centuries CE, located outside of the ancient town of Si Thep. I was able to get som cool shots from my drone, check out my post here: https://www.southeastasianarchaeology.com/2022/12/15/drone-flight-over-khao-klang-nok-si-thep-historical-park/

#khaoklangnok #sithephistoricalpark #phetchabun #drone #dronestagram #dvaravati #khmer #thaiarchaeology #southeastasianarchaeology #southeastasia #อุทยานประวัติศาสตร์ศรีเทพ #เพชรบูรณ์ #archaeology
  • Extended edit from Khao Klang Nok in Si Thep Historical Park, very grateful for the permission to take some shots for the @seameospafa post-#ippa2022 excursion.
  • Ending the second day of the @seameospafa #ippa2022 post-conference excursion on a high note - literally. Khao Klang Nok at the Si Thep Historical Park #southeastasianarchaeology #sithephistoricalpark #khaoklangnok
  • Terracotta elephant statue from the pre-Thang Long period, approximately 8-10th century. On display at the museum under the National Assembly Building in Hanoi. #vietnamarchaeology #southeastasianarchaeology #vietnam #hanoi #thanglong #terracotta #elephant #ceramics #ancientart
  • Earlier this week there was a news article about a Thai archaeologist’s attempt to repatriate a statue that was reportedly looted from Buriram province and now on display at the Metropolitan Museum of Art.
https://www.southeastasianarchaeology.com/2022/07/08/thai-archaeologist-on-mission-to-reclaim-ancient-khmer-sculpture-from-us/

This is the so-called Golden Boy, taken at the Met last December. The label calls it a Standing Shiva(?) and attributes it to the Cambodia, Siem Reap origin but it may be in fact a representation of Jayavarman Vi. You can see the museum info here: https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/39097?ft=khmer&offset=0&rpp=40&pos=3

#khmer #sculpture #looting #antiquitiestrade #themet #metropolitanmuseumofart #khmerarchaeology #thaiarchaeology #southeastasianarchaeology #southeastasia #museums #repatriation #angkor #cambodia #thailand #buriram
  • What’s in your field kit? Here’s what’s in mine: https://www.southeastasianarchaeology.com/2022/07/04/whats-in-my-archaeology-field-kit-june-2022/ #fieldwork #fieldgear #camera #drone #archaeology #photography #videography
  • Last month I received the latest publication from the Getty Conservation Institute entitled Networking for Rock Art, focusing on public engagement. I have a small contribution very aptly named “Leave a Like and Subscribe” 😅 You can download a copy here: https://www.getty.edu/conservation/publications_resources/pdf_publications/networking_for_rock_art.html#:~:text=Networking%20for%20Rock%20Art&text=This%20volume%20by%20the%20Rock,are%20addressed%20through%20local%20action. #rockart #publicarchaeology #communityarchaeology #southeastasianarchaeology #freebook #book #gettyconservationinstitute
  • A cocktail is an unlikely candidate for an archaeology-based feed, but it turns out that the iconic Singapore Sling of the Long Bar at @raffleshotelsingapore  was a favourite of Dutch prehistorian van Stein Callenfels. No doubt, lithics work makes one thirsty. #singaporesling #rafffleshotel #longbar #indonesianarchaeology #malaysianarchaeology #singaporearchaeology #pietervansteincallenfels #southeastasianarchaeology #travelsingapore #visitsingapore #singaporetourism #singapore #cocktails
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For those who haven’t tried it, the Singapore Sling is essentially a boozy fruit punch. It was also designed for the ladies but I guess that didn’t stop Ivan the Terrible!
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Rebutting the myth that Malays have the second oldest genes in the world

August 6, 2018
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Tags: "Out of Sundaland" modelAustronesian (peoples)DNAgeneticsHomo sapienshuman evolutionHuman Genome Organisation (HUGO)Human Genome ProjectIban (people)indigenous peoplesMaude E Phipps (person)migrationNationalismOrang Asli (people)pseudoarchaeologyrace and ethnicityStephen Oppenheimer (person)Zaharah Sulaiman (person)
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Rebutting the myth that Malays have the second oldest genes in the world

Malaysia has a complex history of ethnonationalism, in which people who are identified as Malay (but more accurately native Malaysians) are given special privileges over other ethnic groups in the country. This has led to a number of social, economic and political problems but the one that I want to highlight here is the misuse of science and archaeological research to advance this agenda. Last week, a historian speaking at the ominously named “The Origins of the Malay” forum “quoted” the work of the Human Genome Organisation and said that after the Africans, the Malays have the second oldest genetic lineages in the world, even going so far as to imply that the Malays were ultimately responsible for establishing the Chinese and Greek civilizations.

This is some next-level ridiculousness but the misuse of archaeology for the promotion of ethnonationalism is not new in Malaysia, particularly when it comes to genetics, and we have seen examples before here and here. I’m glad that the authors from the Human Genome Organization whose research were misquoted and misused issued a rebuttal, but I also wish that the journalist and editors from the Malay Mail had done some basic fact-checking as well. I reproduce the main rebuttals here:

As academicians who have been funded largely through grants from the Ministry of Science, Technology and Innovation, Ministry of Higher Education of Malaysia, the UK government and our respective institutions, we are duty bound to address the dubious statements that do not stand to factual or scientific scrutiny, and only serve to misinform and confuse the public.

1. We must unequivocally state that there are no such things as Malay genes, Chinese genes, Indian genes, etc. All of humanity are Homo sapiens with Homo sapiens genes.

2.  Zaharah is reported to have said that “roughly 60,000 to 75,000 years ago, there was a migration by some of the shortest people from humanity’s cradle in Africa to Sundaland, which is now known as Southeast Asia”.

This seems inconceivable and illogical. How could these “first migrants” have been the “shortest people” and how could they have skipped the landmasses between Africa and Southeast Asia such as the Arabian Peninsula, Middle East, Levant and Indian subcontinent to get to Southeast Asia? There are clear archaeological evidences of the existence of Anatomically Modern Humans (AMH) from the following sites that have been carbon dated. For example, Jebel Qattar (75 thousand years ago (kya), Mundafan (100-80 kya), Aybut Al Awual (105 kya) and Jebel Faya C (125 kya); in Levant Qafzeh (120-90 kya); and 16R Dune (96-80 kya), Jwalapuram (85-75 kya).

3. She is reported to have said that “The study conducted by the Human Genome Organisation (Hugo) that was published in 2013 showed that the ancestors of the Malay people, the Semang and Senoi, migrated to the ancient kingdom of Champa that is now located in parts of Vietnam and Cambodia.”

We are members of the Human Genome Organization and can verify that there was no such publication in 2013.  What we did publish were papers in 2011 and 2014 that elucidated genetic variants among various Malay sub-populations. We found no evidence whatsoever that Senoi and Semang were directly related to Malays. The Champa were never mentioned. The Malaysian Negrito (also known as Semang) and Senoi groups are Austro-Asiatic speakers, while Malays are Austronesian speakers. Both groups are genetically distinct from each other.

4. She has been reported to have claimed “From Semang and Senoi came the rest of the ethnic tribes including the indigenous peoples such as the orang Asli, Iban, Dayaks and so on. In fact, the Malays’ closest ancestor is the Jakun tribe”.

This statement is fundamentally flawed and misleading. There are 3 main groups of Orang Asli in peninsular Malaysia ― Negrito, Senoi and Proto-Malay (of which Jakun is a sub group). Jakun and Malays are genetically related. However, there is no strong evidence to prove that Jakun are ancestral to Malays. Neither is there any evidence to prove that Semang (Negrito) and Senoi are the ancestors of the Iban or Dayak in Borneo.

5. She was also reported to have said that “based on scientific evidence, the Malay set of mtDNA is 63,000 years old when compared to the Chinese mtDNA that is 43,000 years old. The youngest set of mtDNA in the world belongs to the South American civilisation at 10,000 years old.”

The mtDNA is inherited from mothers and is used to roughly estimate departure from our female ancestors. It contributes only 0.00005% of total human DNA/genes and is less stable than nuclear DNA (99.99995 per cent) in cells. Population genetics does not rely solely on mtDNA to draw conclusions about human ancestry, evolution or migration. To do so now would be inaccurate and unreliable. We always consider maternal, paternal genetics and the bigger picture.

The rebuttals were issued by Prof Dr Maude E Phipps (Monash University Malaysia), Prof Dr Hoh Boon Peng (UCSI University Malaysia, Prof Dr Stephen Oppenheimer (Oxford University), Prof Dato’ Dr Mahani Mansor-Clyde (formerly at Universiti Kebagsaan Malaysia) and Dr Farhang Aghakhanian (Monash University Malaysia).

See also:

  • Historian: Malay genes second oldest in the world | Malay Mail, 02 August 2018
  • Rebutting Zaharah Sulaiman on Malay genes second oldest in the world ― Maude E Phipps | Malay Mail, 04 August 2018

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Comments 16

  1. Liz says:
    4 years ago

    Oòoooh. More wild claims of Malay “supremacy “.

  2. Khairul says:
    4 years ago

    The indian, chinese, slav, saxon, aryan, levant and others races were originated from malay anscestor

  3. Noel Tan says:
    4 years ago

    Your statement is objectively wrong and you obviously haven’t read the article either.

  4. knowUrMalay says:
    4 years ago

    Negritos could be as old as Africans & older than other races but Malays 2nd oldest race? Not even close.

  5. BK says:
    4 years ago

    Khairul, dont take this 60k years dark secret when u travelling outside Malaysia, the whole world will laugh at your ignorance at best… Lol

  6. William Khoo says:
    4 years ago

    If you think that you are right mr.author a chinese as i am,go and face her.challenge her by academic proof.she did mtdna research what have tou got?

  7. Cloud Chaser says:
    3 years ago

    William Khoo…I agree with u..she did the research n the writer just create some denial fact… ignorance will always want to win although he knows the actual fact

  8. Shani says:
    3 years ago

    Rebuttal is useless without mtDNS proof.. talk is cheap lets see the evidence

  9. Bukan Bapak Kau says:
    3 years ago

    “Jakun and Malays are genetically related. However, there is no strong evidence to prove that Jakun are ancestral to Malays”

    These statements are contradicting by itself. Try to make sense out of it.

    I don’t care about the relation between Malays and Senoi/Semang, genetically we are different, also by language. That I could agree. However Malays are related to Proto-Malays, this has been researched by academicians in the past multiple times, and its observable not just by genetics, but also culturally and linguistically. They represent the Malay people before intermarriage and contact with other cultures. After all, they (Jakun, Temuan, and others) were grouped as “Proto-Malays” by anthropologies for obvious reason.

    Seems like these UCSI and Monash profs were also trying to assert their twisted views on others. No difference.

  10. Noel Tan says:
    3 years ago

    On the contrary, the statements make sense – the Jakun and Malays are ‘cousins’ (so the speak): they are genetically related, but one is not ancestral to the other. Groupings were established based on the available evidence, groupings should change as new evidence presents itself.

  11. Dunter says:
    3 years ago

    This finding will make other people think the Malays are just boasting themselves. But the truth is, all the puzzles that the ancient people left long time ago will be discovered soon. This might sounds ridiculous but as a human, put away all the negative thinking. Do the research. Connect and relate all the academics findings and research and at the end, we will find the answer. Believe me

  12. lima says:
    3 years ago

    the malays are mix of austronesian and austroasiatic.. their have complex gene so far in south east asia.. you should do more research and blaming the researcher.. their have facts and if you have facts, please talk to the researcher your arguments..

  13. Jack says:
    3 years ago

    So Malays are related to Proto-Malay, one of the earliest family. That’s all you need to know. Respect their rights.

  14. James Harvard says:
    3 years ago

    denial syndrome is typical for communist or racist mentality.. they are good in spinning around cause hatred stupidity

  15. I love Malaysia says:
    3 years ago

    “Meanwhile, the Proto-Malays who arrived later than Negritos in 2000 BC were seafaring people and settled mostly in the central and southern regions of Peninsular Malaysia [1], [11]. They are Austronesian speakers apart from one tribe, (the Semelai) who speak Aslian [9] and embrace people who are similar in appearance to the Malays but of diverse origins, some probably having entered the region by sea in recent centuries whilst others may have been living in the peninsula for thousands of years [9], [10]. In contrast, the present-day Malays of the Malay Peninsula are described as Deutero-Malays, the descendants of the Proto-Malays who had admixed with Siamese, Javanese, Sumatran, Indian, Thai, Arab and Chinese traders [12]. However, according to Fix [10], the original Deutero-Malays migrated from southern China (after the migration of the Proto-Malays) over 1500 years ago and their intermarriages with the Proto-Malays and traders of the ancient trade routes resulted in the diverse recent Deutero-Malay populations that became known currently as the Malays. Hence, Malay population structure analysis would not just provide the information on the genetic differentiation between the populations but would also provide insight into the relationship with the indigenous populations in Peninsular Malaysia.”

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3071720/

  16. Dinbatupahay says:
    2 years ago

    By Sailing. Melayar_melayuik.

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